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Can Satan be forgiven?

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  • July 27, 2015

    Can GOD forgive satan if  he decided to bow down and repent from his wickedness?  I m looking for different answers

  • SARA381

    July 27, 2015

    I guess if he repented from his sins and changed completely and got away from evilness then maybe yes.

  • TED730

    July 28, 2015

    There is never ever any repentance found in Satan yesterday, today and forever. It is an everlasting impossibility. You answer is absolutely ''NO''.

  • August 4, 2015

    Personally, i do not think that Satan can be forgiven because he chose the evil path....he is already condemned.

  • August 8, 2015

    Forgiveness is in flesh because of its infirmities there is no forgiveness of spirit,him also having seen the glory of God turn away from Him,we not seeing yet we believe in Him

  • NITA918

    August 10, 2015

    Yes you rigth now miss Mariana,,good you answered,

  • BROALEX044

    August 14, 2015

    Well to reply to this, I guess we need to go over a couple things: First, to Sara381, it is impossible for Satan to repent of his sins because sin only applies to mankind. Also, to say that Satan could be forgiven is to say that we cannot fully believe in the Bible which is to say that we cannot fully believe everything God has said because in Revelation it talks about Satan, the Tempter is locked up forever. If you would like more refrerences, Selma, let me know, and I can dig them up for you. But no, according to God's book, the Bible, Satan will not be receiving forgiveness, his doom is set.

  • NITA918

    August 22, 2015

    hello My dear Broalex, thanks you if you can explain more refrences by bible thus satan?

  • DEBORAH840

    August 24, 2015

    It has already been determined by GOD, what will happen to the devil...

    And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev. 20:10

    So the answer is his destiny is set and into the lake of fire will his eternal destination be.

  • October 27, 2015

    true Miss Deborah

  • MICHAEL709

    November 9, 2015

    for me satan cannot be forgiven because he is cause of all the problems here on earth

  • CARRIE247

    November 10, 2015

    I found a good response to this topic on the Billy Graham website...

    Although the Bible doesn’t go into detail about the devil’s origin, it does indicate that he was an angel who rebelled against God and was cast out of heaven as a result: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!” (Isaiah 14:12, KJV).

    Why did he rebel against God? The reason can be summarized in one word: pride. He became jealous of God’s position, and in his pride he decided to lead a revolution and take God’s place: “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven. … I will make myself like the Most High'” (Isaiah 14:13-14). He failed – but his goal is still the same: to take God’s place.

    You need to remember two important truths about Satan. First, he is real, and he is powerful. Don’t make the mistake of thinking he is a cute little cartoon figure with a red suit and a pitchfork – for he isn’t. He is completely evil, and his goal is to block God’s work in our lives. The Bible says he is “like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour” (1 Peter 5:8).

    But the second thing you need to remember is that the devil is a defeated foe! By His death and resurrection Jesus Christ conquered sin and death and Hell – and someday Christ will come again to pronounce judgment on Satan and his followers. On whose side are you – Christ’s or Satan’s? Don’t give in to the devil’s lies, but commit your life to Christ and become His follower.

    billygraham.org/answer/where-d ... would-he-do-th/

  • JOSHUA738

    November 12, 2015

    Satan is just like a person as far as he has a personality, We all make mistakes and GOD is a just forgiving GOD. I do not see why he can forgive humans but not Satan, I am not saying it would not take allot longer becouse he has done evil for 3683 years. Humans were GOD's creation and the Demons made us so bad that GOD could not stand to even know of us.

  • HARIT677

    November 13, 2015

    I do not agree with that idea! Jesus came to earth to save the human beings not Satan.  We are all forgiven because of the death of Jesus on the cross and He had conquered over Satan. I  do not believe that there is a forgiveness for him at all!

  • JOSHUA738

    November 13, 2015

    This is becouse you donot understand the real things "Jesus" went through  or the way that Human body named "Jesus" was put on the cross. Also you do not understand where the "Demons" come from.

    November 13, 2015 updated by JOSHUA738

  • November 21, 2015

    Let's break the question into two:-

    The fact: Man can be blinded by Satan, hence taking long to repent. What of Satan, who has blinded him or kept him from repenting? No one? So what could ever happen within the devil's heart or around him to lead him to repent? Who could ever give him a revelation of his poor spiritual condition? Not the Spirit of God for sure. We can assume he committed the unpardonnable sin and will not ever wish to repent.

    The hypothetical: If he ever did repent, would God forgive him? Well, as others have said, "Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin." So, there is nothing to facilitate Satan's forgiveness, no blood sacrifice, nothing to wash his sins away.

  • BIBLEMAN218

    December 23, 2015

    It would be the same as if we had not given a personal relationship with Christ our risen savior. If we chose not to believe in him or not have a relationship with Jesus, then how could we be given forgiveness?

  • GEORGE118

    December 27, 2015

    No! Satan will always be evil! & he's the Prince of lies. & because he'll never change Satan will be cast in the lake of fire along with his follower's. but! He'll finally admit that Jesus is Lord. George.

  • GABE642

    January 30, 2016

    I believe Satan can be forgiven if he eventually repents genuinely and turns from his evil ways. Hoever, for who Satan is, he will not be forgiven because he will not repent.

  • HEAVEN567

    February 23, 2016

    Satan had crossed the line. God gave him the opportunity to do almost everything except to blow breath into man but no,Satan refused he wanted to be able to do that also. As a result God refused and had was to "KICK" him out of heaven and all those other angels who supported him. I believe that God saw his intentions and had was to do what he did. Satan was very ungreatful. He will never be forgiven, its over for him.

  • AQUAVIVA647

    April 19, 2016

    And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,where the beast and the false prophet are,and he shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever Revelation20:10 kjv

  • DORDRECHT101

    April 20, 2016

    This verse explaines all:

    Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

    Matthew 25:41 KJV

  • April 25, 2016

    Satan and other fallen angels cannot be saved. Several reasons could be cited, but the key reason is that Jesus is the "kinsman-redeemer" of humanity, and only of humanity. The Mosaic law stipulates some requirements for someone to be able to save/redeem someone else. Some of these are:

    1. The redeemer must be related by blood to the one(s) he is redeeming (i.e. be a kinsman).
    2. The redeemer must not be in need of redemption himself (i.e. must be free).
    3. The redeemer had to be both willing and able to redeem (i.e. pay the price).

    The law of the kinsman-redeemer was established in Leviticus 25:47-49:

    Now if the means of a stranger or of a sojourner with you becomes sufficient, and a countryman of yours becomes so poor with regard to him as to sell himself to a stranger who is sojourning with you, or to the descendants of a stranger’s family, 48 then he shall have redemption right after he has been sold. One of his brothers may redeem him, 49 or his uncle, or his uncle’s son, may redeem him, or one of his blood relatives from his family may redeem him; or if he prospers, he may redeem himself.

    Jesus was related by blood to humans and, being born of Mary, was fully human himself. That fulfills the 1st requirement. Jesus, being fully God/Divine, is not related to Angels any more than he's related to animals. They are created beings, unrelated to Jesus; Jesus is the kinsman of humanity alone, so any non-human beings are out of luck. Jesus was also free from the bondage of sin, so the 2nd is also fullfilled. (Since the Bible teaches that everyone has sinned, except God, this implies that only God can fullfill this requirement.) Lastly, since God is the only savior, the kinsman redeemer needed to have a dual nature -i.e. had to be both fully God and fully man.

    Quoting Dr. Jonathan Sarfati[1]:

    This Substitute must fulfil two conditions:

    1. He must be fully human to substitute for humanity. Hebrews 2:14–17 tell us that Jesus died for mankind, precisely because He “shares their humanity”; but he didn’t share angelic nature, so sinning angels are out of luck. Furthermore, the prophet Isaiah foretold this coming Saviour as literally the ‘Kinsman-Redeemer’, i.e. one who is related by blood to those he redeems (Isaiah 59:20, which uses the same Hebrew word גּוֹאֵל (gôēl) as is used to describe Boaz in relation to Naomi in Ruth 2:20, 3:1–4:17). This is possible only because this Saviour is a physical descendant of the first man Adam via Mary (Luke 3:38)—and is called ‘the Last Adam’ (1 Corinthians 15:45)—which makes him the relative of all humans in all ‘races’ or people groups who have ever existed. [...]

    2. He must be fully Divine to endure God’s infinite wrath (Isaiah 53:10), since a mere creature could not withstand it. Furthermore, יהוה/YHWH/Jehovah/God Himself said “I, even I, am the Lord, and apart from me there is no saviour.” (Isaiah 43:11). So calling Jesus ‘Saviour’ is logically calling Him YHWH since YHWH is the only saviour. No wonder that the great Trinitarian Church Father Athanasius (c. 293–373) noted: “Those who maintain ‘There was a time when the Son was not’ [i.e. was a created being] rob God of his Word, like plunderers.”

    This required dual nature of the Redeemer fits perfectly with 1 Timothy 2:5:

    "For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

    An ideal mediator between two groups should ideally be a member of both. Thus Jesus is such a mediator, because He is the only member of both groups: ‘God’ and ‘man’. And since the Bible teaches that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23), this Substitute had to die to pay for our sins.

    Another good article including some information on this can be found here[2].

    [1] creation.com/incarnation-why-god-became-man
    [2] www.angelfire.com/nt/theology/hb02-11.html

    April 26, 2016 updated by XRAY948

  • OCTAVIANUS876

    April 30, 2016

    If we trust and believe God is almighty, then we must believe God can forgive satan and maybe we don't need The Savior. All I know about God is He can do whatever He wants but I'm not a God so I don't know what was God thinking if He forgives satan. (IMHO)

    - sorry for my english, Jesus Bless us -

  • May 1, 2016

    OCTAVIANUS876 wrote:

    If we trust and believe God is almighty, then we must believe God can forgive satan and maybe we don't need The Savior.

    The fact that God is almighty does not imply any of the points you're trying to advance. As I already explained, Satan is not really redeemable, and you certainly provide no references to justify your point. In addition, the suggestion that we don't need Jesus as the Savior is quite opposite to basic Christianity and even the logical self-consistency of what God has revealed about himself, our human condition as sinners, and the only way in which people can be redeemed/saved.

    "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'" -John 14:6

    OCTAVIANUS876 wrote:

    All I know about God is He can do whatever He wants

    This is not true. All we can actually know about God has been revealed by Him directly in the Bible. The Bible makes it explicitly clear that there're several things God can not actually do, because they would go against his holy and perfect nature. A few examples of things God can not do include the following:

    1. God cannot deny (i.e. contradict) himself (2 Timothy 2:13)
    2. God cannot change (Malachi 3:6)
    3. God cannot sin. For example, he cannot lie (Hebrews 6:18, Titus 1:2)
    4. God cannot be tempted by evil and does not tempt anyone to do evil (James 1:13)
    5. God cannot stop being God due to his eternal nature (Psalm 90:2)

    Think about it. God is truth, and truth must be, by its very nature, unchangeable. If truth could change, then it couldn't be truth. To be less abstract, if God could actually change, then there're serious problems for the Christian and we'd have to go back to Pilate's question to Jesus, "What is truth?". As another example, if God could lie, then what basis would Christians have to actually trust that Jesus is really going to save those who have trusted Him? None, actually, because that promise itself could be a lie. There's more that could be said, but the post would be too lengthy.

    OCTAVIANUS876 wrote:

    but I'm not a God so I don't know what was God thinking if He forgives satan. (IMHO)

    Although you're certainly entitled to your own opinion, Christians have a moral responsibility to make a conscious effort to make sure their thoughts are actually consistent with Biblical revelation.

    "We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ" -2 Corinthians 10:5

    God explicitly specified the requirements that a someone must fulfill not only to be a redeemer, but to also be redeemable. God's non-Human creations (e.g. angels, animals, plants, etc) do not meet the requirements, which I explained in my previous post.

    Regards.

    PS: Another helpful article can be read here carm.org/questions/about-god/c ... g-including-sin

    May 1, 2016 updated by XRAY948

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